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We are happy to announce that Wikka has just opened a dedicated issue tracker. We are currently migrating open issues, bugs and feature requests from this site to the new server but this migration isn't complete yet.

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Thanks for your understanding.


 

Issues often asked for
see also:

Language support

Ticket:340


Highlight text searched in a page

Ticket:281


Wikka markup inside tables
Ticket:230


Is There a way to consolidate a bunch of page updates (the actual content that is) onto one page?

Ticket:259


Static HTML for offline browsing

Ticket:177


Ticket:175


Edit comments displayed by user rights

Ticket:180

Please provide a way to add formatters, that don't get placed in '<div class = "code">'

Ticket:176



Note on edit, mandatory field

Question: note?
Ticket:114


Order of comments

Ticket:115


Own comments editing

Ticket:116


versioning of attachments

Ticket:118


Making PageIndex go faster

Ticket:117


Single-click restore of previous versions

Ticket:119


Signature

Ticket:121


Preview

Ticket:123


Generate ID in forms; allow class

Ticket:21


Ticket:73


Exclude certain CamelCase words from formatting

Ticket:191


Import WikiPedia database

Ticket:192


Color Formatting

Ticket:193


Separation of Wakka class from wikka.php

Ticket:161


Save Pages to PDF Format

Ticket:190


showing comments

Ticket:195


Ticket:196


RSS options

Ticket:197


wikiwyg

Ticket:44


Google Sitemap

Ticket:210


Clearing ACLs

Ticket:211


Online editing of mindmaps would be great

Ticket:212


%% in code blocks: a possible workaround

How to format code to get two % characters without space together?

Ticket:213


Robot Friendly Pages

Sending 403 headers

(related to the Search engine results inflation item below)
Ticket:258


The access-key for "re-edit

Ticket:234


LinkTails

Ticket:35



Search within the textbox

Ticket:578 (see also WikkaEdit)


Numbers as page names?

Ticket:8


Improved code for error messages in Action() method

Ticket:202


Language files

Ticket:340


mod_rewrite idea (.htaccess)

Ticket: 604


Create rewrite rules on install

Ticket: 604




Suggestions to be checked/migrated to the tracker


making user uploaded images more useful


have a look at my suggestion at FilesAction


Automatic conversion from HTML to WakkiWiki syntax

Does such thing exist? For a number of other Wikies, it does.
It should be nice (one could say, essential) to have this here, too.
--CsillagKristof

Files Management

copied from FilesManagementSolution --JW
Link to files, rather than upload? Would it be possible to add the functionality so that rather than store the files within the Wikki, there was an option box for 'link' as well as upload. This would be useful on internal wikki deployments where you want to avoid file duplication by allowing users to point at the file to create a link to that file on a separate internal server. - RogerD



Automatic summary

copied from Sourceforge --NilsLindenberg

Is it possible to display through an action a little summary of the categories and sub categories available from the page we are in ?


Improving Wikka


A nice list of suggestions can be found at: By Blood and bone.



Login using retrieved password

The password retrieved from forgotten password does not work for me. Is there some setting in php4 or mysql that would allow md5(md5(password)) == md5(password) to return true? Since the password sent is the hash of the clear-text password, the current line in usersettings.php compares a hash of the hashed password to the hashed password, I think. I've found the correct code elsewhere in usersettings.php.
// usersettings.php line 130 fixed
if ($existingUser["password"] == md5($_POST["password"]) || $existingUser["password"]==$_POST["password"])

This is the current version:
// usersettings.php current line 130
if ($existingUser["password"] == md5($_POST["password"]))

The first one works for me. Is there a problem with security in using that version?
-CharlotteFischer


Hiding anonymous host/IP from non-administrators

On the Wiki I run, it is not desireable for the IP/hostname of anonymous users to be displayed to just anyone. I've made a small modification to hide the IP/hostname of anonymous users to users that (a) Are not administrators, and (b) not themselves. In handlers/page/show.php, around line 80 you can find:
print("\t<div class=\"commentinfo\">\n-- ".$this->Format($comment["user"])." (".$comment["time"].")\n");
I modified this to:
if ($this->IsAdmin() || $current_user == $comment["user"] || $this->LoadUser($comment["user"]))
{
    print("\t<div class=\"commentinfo\">\n-- ".$this->Format($comment["user"])." (".$comment["time"].")\n");
}
else
{
    print("\t<div class=\"commentinfo\">\n-- Anonymous#".str_pad(dechex(crc32($comment["user"])), 8, "0", STR_PAD_LEFT)." (".$comment["time"].")\n");
}
And in actions/recentlycommented.php:
if (!$this->LoadUser($comment_by)) $comment_by .= " (unregistered user)";
was changed to:
if (!$this->IsAdmin() && $this->GetUserName() != $comment_by && !$this->LoaderUser($comment_by))
{
    $comment_by = "Anonymous#".str_pad(dechex(crc32($comment_by)), 8, "0", STR_PAD_LEFT);
}
And in actions/recentcomments.php:
if (strlen($comment["comment"]) > 120) $comment_preview = $comment_preview.".... ";
after this add:
if (!$this->IsAdmin() && $this->GetUserName() != $comment["user"] && !$this->LoaderUser($comment["user"]))
{
    $comment["user"] = "Anonymous#".str_pad(dechex(crc32($comment["user"])), 8, "0", STR_PAD_LEFT);
}


You will probably need to also update the XML handlers and the history page handler, but right now anonymous users cannot edit pages on my Wiki. (actions/recentchanges.php, handlers/page/really don't want them to have 2 seperate usernames/ passwords. Therefore ideally I would like the wikka to use the usertable from phpBB... Has anybody else done something like this? -- KiltanneN
    • One solution that I've used is to set up a registration page that registers the user into both the bulletin board and the wiki user tables. I've then removed the registration screens from each of the two. Users can then log into either of them using the same username and password. Of course, this only works when registering "new" users...one would have to write a script to copy existing users from the bulletin board into the wiki user tables for current users. --GmBowen
      • Not a bad idea - but breaks down for password changes and also name changes... I am going to try and build what I have described. I will make notes over here: UseThephpBBUserTable -- KiltanneN


Pages linking to nonexisting pages

As MovieLady pointed out somewhere, it could be usefull to see if there are pages linking to a non existing page (for example when you have renamed the page and have to update the links).

The following solution just prints out the links, without any other text ("the following pages link here") - which should be better placed in the backlinks action.

Change in handlers/page/show.php the lines with if (!this->page) to:
  1.     if (!$this->page)
  2.     {
  3.         print("<p>This page doesn't exist yet. Maybe you want to <a href=\"".$this->Href("edit")."\">create</a> it?</p>");
  4.         print $this->Action("backlinks")."</div>";
  5.     }
  • What's the </div> for? I see no opening <div>. --JavaWoman
    • it closes the <div class="page">. --NilsLindenberg
      • But I don't see an opening <div> - and this closing </div> is within an if clause. So when/where is that div opened, and when/where does it get closed when the condition is not true? Something wrong with the logic here, or you're not showing enough of the logic. --JavaWoman
        • Ok, I was a littler bit short here :) the show handler opens a <div class="page"> before doing anything else (like the "has access"/page is existing check). So it has to be closed (and actually is closed) in every one of the three cases (1. no access to the page 2.pages is not existing 3.pages is displayed). In the official version it is closed after the "create it". I just moved it to have the backlinks inside the page-class (should have written that earlier :) --NilsLindenberg.
          • All right :) I guess the show handler is just sloppily written. If you open a div no matter what conditions apply, then you also close it no matter what, i.e., opened outside the if statement, then close it also outside the if statement. Whatever you do inside the if statement should have no influence at all: if opened, you must close it, no ifs and buts. I guess it's not wriiten like that (yet...). One for the code cleanup list. ;-) --JavaWoman


Configurable name for Wikka engine

I think it might be interesting for many of our users if we gave the possibility - in the install/upgrade wizard - to
rename the engine from wikka.php to something else (for instance, index.php). This might be useful in cases where RR are off and the user wants to avoid long URLs: http://www.mydomain.com/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=HomePage can then become http://www.mydomain.com/wiki/?wakka=HomePage. The name should be specified as an option in wikka.config.php, for instance

 "wikka_engine" => "wikka.php", 


This option might also allow using different engines (say, different versions of wikka.php) on the same installation.
-- DarTar


Search engine results inflation

I have recently installed Wikka on my personal website. Everything works fine, except that the TextSearch link in the page header (which I masked through CSS - I don't want to hack the code) produces dozens of search results that I really don't want to be cached on Google. Same story applies to the revisions and history links that are cached on search engines: this is what happens in the case of our main server. I'd also would like to avoid default wiki pages (like SandBox, MyPages, UserSettings etc.) to be crawled and cached (simply setting ACLs to !*-!*-!* won't do the job). Maybe we should think of a way to allow the user to decide
what kind of content of her Wikka-powered site should be spidered by SE and what content should not. -- DarTar
  • I think I've suggested before that the SandBox should not be indexed - the way to avoid this would be to add the appropriate meta tag to the page's head. That concept could easily be extended by allowing a WikiAdmin (not the WikiUser!) to define a list of pages where such a meta tag would be inserted. Generating a little text note to the effect for all these pages could also go some way to discourage spammers. --JavaWoman


For Better Overview

1. It often takes too much time to check if a wiki has changed and what has changed. In the case of wikkawiki one has to check RecentChanges as well as RecentlyCommented. A combined page would be more convenient - RicharD


Generate page from an external database

As described in DynamicPageGeneration I'd like to create a mailling-like system to fill in pages containig custom fields with data from an external database or a simple table. This could be done through a few actions or by writing a new handler.
This idea can be extended to an inline editor to add/remove/edit entries in this external table if wikka store creditentials with write access in its own tables.
The main goal is to integrate data from an existing knoweldge base in a wikka based documentation repository.

DotMG insists about favicon.ico and robots.txt

Please add the following two lines to ./.htaccess
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/favicon.ico
 RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/robots.txt
 RewriteRule ^(.*)$ wikka.php?wakka=$1 [QSA,L]
This will prevent /favicon.ico and /robots.txt from being redirected to wikka.php?wakka=favicon.ico
With these 2 lines, we don't have to modify wikka.php as suggested in FaviconDotIco --DotMG
  • It can be done more generically by simply preventing rewiting happening when the requested URL matches an existing file or directory:
    RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
    RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f

    The first line excludes any directory, the second any existing file (which would include robots.txt and
    any icon file - you do not necessarily have to use favicon.ico). --JavaWoman


Category Icons

Create a table which maintains a mapping between wikka categories and an associated predefined icon graphic. When the directive {category_icon} is used the category's icon is dropped into the page at the location of invocation. -KarmaTester
  • Karma, we are actually considering the possibility of integrating a set of GPL'ed icons (and the relevant actions/formatters) in Wikka. Stay tuned... -- DarTar
    • You're more than welcome to use our icon action and icons: WikiIcons which were copyleft from here. The icons were auto-generated from the SVG versions at various sizes, you can take what you want. Only problem is they are PNG's -great in ANY browser but IE!!! --IanAndolina
      • IE7 does support PNG's, IE6 and IE5.5 support it with a javascript solution, look in SmiliesAction for more on IE, PNG, image actions, icons etc.
    • Some more at IconsInWikka -- ChristianBarthelemy


Automatic Table of Content Generation

A table of contents {TOC} directive is replaced by an ordered list of defined headers in the wiki page. This makes it easier to navigate pages which are very long like this one. -KarmaTester

Security Verification Test from Wikini

On the top of most page handlers, the Wikini developers have:
// Vérification de sécurité
if (!defined("WIKINI_VERSION"))
{
die ("accès direct interdit");
}

I'm not sure what exactly this does, can anyone enlighten me; and if it is a good idea, then it should considered for Wikka too... --IanAndolina
  • This is to ensure that a hacker can't view a page directly, with url like http://wikka.jsnx.com/actions/recentchanges.php. If this technique is possible, he (the hacker) can send request to make your wikka site output error strings. But in wakka forks, this will result in handlers "page/recentchanges.php.php" not found, if rewriteengine is on. If else, I' ll test it and I'll tell you. The simplest workaround, if it's the case is to add a .htaccess file at ./actions, .handlers/page directories, with the content : Deny from all. --DotMG



Inherit ACL from 'parents'

Create a page and when creating a page from there, give the option to copy the ACL of the first page.
Should pages be linked in some form to some documents given the fact that Wikka is flat, not hierarchic.
ForTheLazy - chatlog and summary.
-- FreekNL
  • IMO the acl system has to be dumped and/or renewed/rewrittem to accomodate usergroups..
  • I have been thinking of presenting a modification that will actually implement this user managment system ..
  • having privileges for each page is making userprofile-specific-features on Wikka efficiently non-existant.
  • The ability to create custom usergoups ( aka levels, profiles etc. ) would enable the addition such features
  • ( ip/hostname display , access to special parts of the wiki and such .. ) -- GeorgePetsagourakis
See also HierarchiesAndInheritance for some background --JavaWoman


Paragraph instead of line-breaks

(copied from WhatsNew -- DarTar)
Why is it that the formatter creates line breaks instead of paragraphs? I've been trying to figure out a way to get Wikka to do this, but it may be nice for there to be some sort of option in a future release. Paragraphs tend to be more useful for doing CSS formatting.
-- ScumBle

+1 — semantically, Wikka's current lack of proper paragraphs and liberal sprinkling of line breaks is really undesirble. I made a hack-mod on my wakka some time ago in formatter/wakka.php (just after the preg_replace_callback):

$pattern2 = "/^(\040|\t)*(?!<|\040)(.+)$/m"; //matches any line with no <element> (and variable leading space) - assume a paragraph
$replace2 = "<p>\\2</p>";
$text=preg_replace($pattern2,$replace2,$text);

$pattern1 = "/^(\040|\t)*(<(?!hr|(\/|)h[1-6]|br|(\/|)li|(\/|)[uo]l|(\/|)div|(\/|)p).*)$/m"; //matches any <element>text lines not considered block formatting
$replace1 = "<p>\\2</p>";
$text=preg_replace($pattern1,$replace1,$text);


I don't know how that will affect wikka (it was designed for my formatting which is different to wikka slightly), and there is probably a much better way to do it (call a post-formatter?), but it is possible using a small modification at least... --IanAndolina
  • The above code places paragraph tags throughout the page, including within code blocks, which seems undesirable. If \n were treated as markup which wakka.php needs to transform into paragraph tags, code blocks wil not be changed, I think. I'll try it and post the code changes if it works. --PaulP
    • No, that doesn't completely work either. It leaves code blocks unchanged, but keeps text from returning to left margin after indented paragraphs. --PaulP



E-mail this page facility
--JamesMcl


Usergroups

(copied from WikkaDevelopment --Nils)
Yet another idea from me:
Usergroups. So i can create a group of users, and just write that group into the ACLs...
GregorLindner
- Take a look at GroupManagement (which doesn't seem to be finished) - or at ACLsWithUserGroups.


"In work" for Wikka-pages

(copied from WikkaDevelopment --Nils)
Add a page property, 'Status' [?] that can be used to facilitate code development within Wikka. Imagine a very basic CVS system. A user can change the status to "In use' while considering improvements to the code, and then change it to 'Available' when done. This may prevent this scenario:
  • Multiple users see the same code and concurrently start working on changes.
  • One user posts his changes.
  • Another user posts his changes without realizing that the code had been updated.
OR
  • Another user has to go back through his code and incorporate the changes made by the first user.
  • Comments:
  • Dangerous! Consider the following scenario: user has been hard at work all week, now it's Friday afternoon and there's some time to do an edit or three. User opens each page in a browser tab, marking all three as "in use" and starts to edit them. Clickety-click. Suddenly user realises he has to run to catch the train home. Run! On the train, user realises the three pages are still open in the browser and "in use". "No matter", thinks our user, "it's always quiet during the weekend and I'll get back to it first thing Monday morning. On Sunday afternoon, user plays soccer, as he always does, and breaks a leg, which he usually doesn't do. User is transported to hospital where he has to stay for four weeks. ... A bit exceptional maybe - but what do you do with "dangling in uses" and when (how) are they considered "dangling" in the first place? --JW
    • Good point, but this modification would be only an informational resource to facilitate user communication. Techically, users could still update the page any time they wanted. It would just be a courtesy to hold back if you saw that a page was 'in use.' I didn't mention it above, but I planned to also add a field that would timestamp when the status was last changed. So in your scenario, we would see that the page had been marked as 'in use' for several days and feel free to ignore it. However, this does bring up the idea that it would be good to also have a 'note' box available for updating the page status -- used for comments such as, "should have the code updated within a few hours." Better now? -- JsnX
  • I've got code/table changes done that indicate if anybody (other than oneself) opened the page to "edit" in the last 15 minutes. It's on an iteration that isn't "live" right now (it's part of an earlier installation of wikka that we just haven't brought the code forward from yet), but I can make it that way so you can test out the functionality if you want. Since much of our site will be geared towards small teams doing collaborative editing, it was designed so that editing conflicts would not occur. Let me know if you want me to get it installed at a test site. -- GmBowen
  • I agree, it's an important issue (some Wakka forks have already addressed the problem of concurrent editing) -- DarTar
  • JsnX: If it's purely informational, that's better; I thought the intention was some kind of locking. So you'd have something like:
    • -state: in use | available
    • -timestamp: in use since
    • -note: applies to the in use state only
  • Then - would the state apply to the logical page or to a particular version? If the latter, what happens if a page is reverted to that version? What happens to the state when another user goes ahead and edits the page anyway?
  • And I still think you'd need some kind of admin function to "clear" dangling in use states that are older than xx minutes/hours/days.
  • GmBowen: is yours completely automatic or user-initiated? What happens in the run off to catch the train scenario? -- JavaWoman
  • (i) it's purely informational, not a "lock"...it sets a red exclamation mark beside the page name at the top if the "edit" link (or double click) has been used in the last 15 minutes by anybody other than yourself (ii) it's automatic (iii) the "train scenario" can't happen. It doesn't check if "saved" or not, just whether an edit was started in the last 15 minutes. This means that if the person doing the edit hasn't saved in the last 15 minutes when editing then the exclamation mark isn't activated for another user. But, people should save edits every 15 minutes anyways methinks. It's not "foolproof", but was meant to avoid many sorts of common editing conflicts on collaborative documents. It's not a very "big" edit of the wikka code actually. The edit.php script timestamps the most recent version of the page when it is activated, and there's a small addition to header.php that checks when the page is loaded to see if the current time is < 15 minutes from that timestamp & if so shows an exclamation mark. Finally, there's a small linked graphic that "refreshes" the page beside "homepage" and the "edit" link (essentially, it's just a link to the page itself) so a user can check the edit status before deciding to edit it themselves. For server load reasons I decided to not have an automatic check (once every 5 minutes for example) since most people read & don't edit much of the time so it made sense more to encourage people to check edit status themselves. Of course, it would also be possible to have edit.php check to see if the file was edited in last 15 minutes and if so, ask the user if they wanted to continue with their own edit. Hmmm...I'll have to think about that. As it sits it worked pretty well when tested (but remember, I'm into small group collaborative writing tasks....I'm not sure how it would work if the pages were "open" to everyone). It originally took me several hours to write the code myself, but I'm sure it would take JW or DarTar or Jason maybe 30 minutes....and the code would probably be more efficient (I'm not a real coder remember :-( ) -- GmBowen (aka Mike) (I've now provided my code & mods @ [GmBowenRecentEditCheck] for people to play with)


Searching (in) comments

(copied from WikkaDevelopment --Nils)
Add the ability to 'search for all comments by user X'. How this might be useful: I want to find a comment by JavaWoman
(really?), but I can't remember which page it was on -- she's quite prolific! -- (I admit I'm easily distracted. What am I doing here, now!? :)) so I use this new function to list all of her comments.


(copied from WikkaDevelopment --Nils)
It would be good if the text-search would be sorted in some way. If I search for example for "GmBowen", a page with the exact match (his userpage) should be on the top of the results. The next results perhaps in alphabetical order? --NilsLindenberg


Highlight unseen Recentchanges

(copied from WikkaDevelopment --NilsLindenberg)
Add fields to the 'users' table [?] to track when RecentChanges and RecentlyCommented were last viewed. Then RecentChanges and RecentlyCommented can by modified to highlight new items since the user last viewed the page.


Is there a way to include a target in a link, so that the Link opens in a new window?
  • Yeap, use this directly within the wikka page you are working on
  •  <A href="http://google.com" TARGET="_blank">Google</A> 
  • It will show up a normal link Google
  • In this case the TARGET="_blank" bit is what does the trick.
  • Assuming this is what you were originally after, it has the advantage of no code changes. NickDamoulakis
    • I assume you meant the above code to be put in double quotes like this:
    •  ""<A href="http://google.com" TARGET="_blank">Google</A>"" 
    • Since I use Wikka inside an iframe I need to use target a lot, so I modified the forced links section in wakka.php from:
    • //if ($url!=($url=(preg_replace("/@@|££||\[\[/","",$url))))$result="</span>";
      if (!$text) $text = $url;
      //$text=preg_replace("/@@|££|\[\[/","",$text);
      return $result.$wakka->Link($url, "", $text);
    • To this:
    • //if ($url!=($url=(preg_replace("/@@|££||\[\[/","",$url))))$result="</span>";
      if (!$text) $text = $url;
      if ($pos=stripos($text, ' target=')) {
          $target = substr($text, $pos);
          $text = substr($text, 0, strlen($text)-strlen($target));
      }
      //$text=preg_replace("/@@|££|\[\[/","",$text);
      return $result.$wakka->Link($url, "", $text);
    • I can now do forced links like this:
    • [[http://www.google.com Google target="_top"]]
    • What I don't like is target within imagelinks, the way it is now you have to write like this:
    • {{image url="whatever.gif" link="http://www.google.com" target="target='_top'"}}
    • This would have been better looking:
    • {{image url="whatever.gif" link="http://www.google.com" target="_top"}}
    • /AndreasHeintze

--GregorLindner

Most wikis I have set up have the need for a page containing a list of links. It would be great if Wikka could support this in some way - such as providing an easy way of adding links to a configured page. One way of doing this could be a simple Java Scriptlet that you configure with the address of the link page. Then, you mark a link in a web-page, click on the scriptlet, enter a short description and bang - the link is added to the wiki page.
The del.icio.us page offers some user contributed hacks which may be a starting point.
-- MatthewLangham
  • MatthewLangham, I propose AddLinkAction as solution for adding links on a page in a structured way. I also added (under the Beta section at the end) a JavaScript-link that you need to bookmark to fast add a link in two mouse clicks... (Works with Firefox and IE under XP, still needs testing with other browsers) -- OnegWR


Image dimensions


The image action really needs the ability to specify image height and width. :) --MovieLady
  • I agree that it would be better to have defined width and height in the resulting img element: faster output, and no "jumping" pages. However, PHP can easily derive these dimensions by itself - would that be sufficient or do you think it's also necessary to be able to override the actual dimensions of the image file? --JavaWoman
    • There surely will be users which want to do that. My suggestion (if possible): allow height and width as optional input. If nothing the variables should be filled with the values of the image. --NilsLindenberg
      • Noted. More easy suggestions like this, please. :) --JavaWoman
        • Yes, that exactly, Nils. LOL Lemme get my list, JW. ;) Seriously, though, I really like what you all have done with this wikki, and the multitude of suggestions are only because I'm getting invested in it. *g* I've been sick or I would've worked on the DeleteSpamAction changes sooner so I could feel like I was actually doing more than "I want it to do this!" ;) --MovieLady
Dear all: see my proposal at EnhancedImageAction
  • That's great, Christian, thank you! --MovieLady



User registration control
now available as URUniqueEMailModule



Embed a blurb from a news page into another page?


I currently have no idea how one would approach this, but thought I'd toss it out there for others to think over. I would find it really useful to have an announcement action (maybe {{news}}?) that I could use which displays only the most recent (configurable) number (e.g. {{news show="2"}} would show the most recent two entries from the page) of entries from a specific (configurable or static?) page. Right now I do this by hand, adding the current announcement to both the front page and the news archive page (so I'll have a history of the announcements), and boy, what a pita! What I'd like to be able to do is just edit the news page and have it automatically update what displays in the news area on the front page. Possible, or am I smoking something I need to share? ;) --MovieLady
  • I am doing this using the IncludeAction - at least you only update one page (TheNews). --ChristianBarthelemy
    • Thanks, I'll try that out. --MovieLady
      • Did you do anything to get it to add only part of the page being included (for example, down to the first horizontal line)? --MovieLady
        • Nope. I just only keep the news updated in TheNews page so that the whole page is displayed when included. --ChristianBarthelemy
          • Ah well, I'll keep working on trying to figure out a way to do it. *g* Thanks! :) --MovieLady


Logging-out

Perhaps the installer should tell the user that he will be logged-out (because of the new cookie-names). Would be nicer. Btw, the /setup directory needs an update (or better the files in it). --NilsLindenberg



It would be wonderful to have the option to display the results of the {{backlinks}} action in columns, similar to what {{Category col="3"}} allows you to do. --MovieLady
backlinks.php
if ($pages = $this->LoadPagesLinkingTo($this->getPageTag())) {
    foreach ($pages as $page) {
        $links[] = $this->Link($page["tag"]);
    }
    // #MW:commented print(implode("<br />\n", $links));

// #MW: Ja, här ska jag fixa stöd för kolumner via parametern col

if (!isset($col)) $col=1;
$out = "<table width='100% border='0''><tr>";
$count = 0;
while (list($key, $val) = each($links)) {
    if($count == $col) { $out .= "</tr><tr>"; $count = 0; }
    $out .= "<td>" . $val . "</td>";
    $count++;
}
$out .= "</tr></table>";
print $out;



User names


Is there any likelihood of non-wikiname usernames (e.g. Movielady) in the future? It's one of the things I've been asked a lot by the users of the site I use Wikka for. (Most often heard comment: "but other wikis I've used let me do it!") Obviously it's possible to create non-wikiname pages, so why not usernames? (I have looked on the site, but I've probably missed the explanation.)

I also agree with Nils that it would be really wonderful if some sort of default user page was created when a person creates an account.
  • Should not be that difficult? In usersettings.php there is a part where a new user is created. After the mysql query which adds the user to the user-base, another query which inserts the user-page to the pages table is needed. Anybody here whos good in creating mysql-queries? --NilsLindenberg
    • Automatically creating a user page should certainly be possible (easy enough). But while on some Wikis you may have a small group of people regularly contributing, on others many people may register just to post one or two things, and then disappear, never even look at their user page - and you'd end up with a lot of empty pages, all of which will show up in the PageIndex. So it really should be a (WikiAdmin) option to determine whether user pages are automatically created or not. --JavaWoman

Y'all are doing a marvelous job, BTW and it is greatly appreciated! :) (I will try to contribute as I can, but honestly, some of the programming is beyond me at the moment.) --MovieLady

I actually hacked UserSettings.php to allow for non-wikinames. Just change lines such as 152 and 179 from:
if (!$this->IsWikiName($name)) $error = "User name must be WikiName formatted!";

to something like:
if(false);

Then modify header.php so that the username is Wikified. So change a certain line (I modified my Wikka so much that I can't give accurate lines) to:
echo "You are ".$this->Link($this->GetUserName());

I'm not sure how well this will work in the long run, but it worked for me!
-- MikeXstudios
  • Good idea, except that having a non-wikiname causes problems elsewhere. For instance, I edited my db by hand and changed a couple of names to non-wikinames, and then one of the users with a non-wikiname forgot (sigh) her password. She tried to request a new one, but the temporary password function wouldn't recognize her username as being valid. And that's certainly not the only place that checks for a valid username. (The automatic sig on comments doesn't show a hotlink to a username if it's not a wikiname, either.) Just FYI. :) --MovieLady
    • I do really want to use non-wikinames (or just turn wikinames off completely somehow). The temp pass and comments can be easily modified, comments can use the same header code above if the user exists. I know many of us are used to wikinames, but it is extremely odd and intimidating to newbies. Thats why Mediawiki dropped all wikinames so not to intimidate anyone and lessen the learning curve. So I hope there is some way to make wikinames an optional thing. --RyanKnoll


List of special actions?

A complete reference list of all the special actions (e.g. {{nocomments}}, {{Category}}, etc.) would be really nice. --MovieLady
  • Have a look at UsingActions which has a current list of available actions. We're working on automatic actions documentation, so that both that list (expanded with short descriptions), and documentation pages for individual actions will pull content from the actions files themselves. (Not for 1.1.6.0, but likely the version after that.) --JavaWoman
    • Thank you! I figured something like that somewhere, but couldn't find it. :) I'm more than happy to help out with documentation if you need help! --MovieLady


Allow spaces in pagetitle

Allow Spaces in the document title and replace it later with "-" to optimize it for search engines.
  • Wikka already uses the SmartTitle formatter, which displays the highest-level header present in the page (like: ===== This is the main heading) as a HTML title. See for instance the title of FormattingRules. -- DarTar


User-defined formatting rules

It would be nice if Wikka supported some way to add in user defined wikki formatting rules (that is, without editing ./formatters/wakka.php). Not sure what that would look like. A few thoughts I've had:
  • An array in wikka.config.php
  • A function defined in a standard place (like ./formatters/wakka_user.php). ./formatters/wakka.php could then call that function, if it exists). Maybe even a flag in wikka.config.php to enable it.
--KickTheDonkey


Compile Category action
A "compile category" action. Right now, if I go to CategoryDocumentation I can see a list of all of the pages in this category...but it still requires a lot of snooping to find what I want. As an administrator I'd like to provide a pdf "booklet" of all of that output for users to download. To make this now would mean going to and printing each and every page (using a software tool, TO a pdf file). Ugh. An action that let me go {{compile category="CategoryDocumentation"}} to generate a single web page of all of that documentation would be quite useful because then I could just print it to a pdf file once.....then I could provide a link to the PDF file so users could download it and print it off.


Compatibility & Installer

(Copied from comment on WikkaInstallation, I support this proposal - and agree that @ in front of a statement should generally be avoided, unless any errors are actually dealt with. (Layout slightly adapted.) --JavaWoman)

IMPORTANT: installer uses TOO MUCH "@" before all mysql calls...
-- 213-140-6-98.fastres.net

- Compatibility-problem is solved now, text moved below to Resolved Suggestions->Compatibility with PHP 4.1.x) --NilsLindenberg


Handling the config

I have three questions about the config. See HandlingWikkaConfig.
--NilsLindenberg
See also WikkaSecureConfig for a possible new appraoch. --JavaWoman
See also Ticket 603 --JavaWoman


Markup for code not to be shown

I read this suggestion elsewhere (not in wikka I don't think...some other wiki I think) and didn't think anything about it at the time, but now with the showpagecode action (Mod042fShowPageCodeHandler) am thinking that maybe some wiki markup for "comment text" that is not shown by the code interpreter might be useful (in other words, visible when editing the page, visible when showing the code, NOT visible when just viewing page). I suspect it might be simple to add this....am I wrong?? -- GmBowen (Mike)
Essentially you can already do this -- well, mostly -- since Wikka supports HTML markup: just enclose the element to be hidden in HTML (SGML) comments: <!-- at the start and --> at the end, and then mark the whole as being HTML. One gotcha: the content between inside the comment declaration cannot itself contain a double dash (hyphen) since that would terminate the comment. And a proviso: HTML should be enabled. --JavaWoman
I played with this a little and did a modification of formatters/wakka.php (see here) that got rid of monospace and replaced it with the comment brackets. It works okay, although it does leave a blank line in the code. I tried making my own format within that code (using ^^) and got nowhere....but what I did works okay. Thanks for your feedback...it provided info I needed to do the change in the wakka file. -- Mike
But why make a modification at all? HTML is already supported. Do you see the commented out text? It's right here in my reply; edit the page to see it. :) --JavaWoman
Ha...I learned something here....I didn't have HTML turned on in the config file (oops!)....however, one thing to remember is that I'm dealing with a different "audience" for using this wikka tool (13-18 year olds, many not computer literate at all, and who would be completely alienated by even thinking about using html...although maybe not all that different from an "average" user) and I'm trying to have it as useable as possible for them. For that group, there's a big difference between typing ## twice when they might want to add a comment they don't want anyone else to see as they're reading the document, like a thought they don't want to forget, and having to remember BOTH of "<!--" AND "-->" (with the double quotes remember). From a useability perspective the latter is a LOT more difficult, and therefore students would be much less likely to use it (altho' the ability to drop in quick notes would be quite useful to the writing process....like I use the post it boxes in MSWord). Imagine them writing an essay that they want comments back on from the teacher or other students. They would never put "off-topic commentary" (to remind themselves of a reference, etc) into the overall "visible" body in a way that you and I might (it runs completely against how students write in school culture)...although such personal sorts of comments might be really useful when re-editing the document. My overall schtick is trying to provide a scaffolding of use so that complete newbies can better proceed to more sophisticated usage...and part of how I do this is considering the culture they work in and how they use similar tools in the context that I'm interested in them using the wiki....which is what many of my comments and additions here are all about eh. ; ) I agree though that for my useage, and for your useage, what you're suggesting makes complete sense....and besides, why do we
need monospace anyways?? {grin} -- Mike
Ah, yes, I see your point about the "available" commenting method being unusable for your (and similar) audience. (One could possibly extend the WikeEdit toolbar to provide an easy "commenting out" action though) On the other hand, maybe you don't need monospace, but I, often writing about code (and planning Wikis where users would do the same), need it all the time: I use it as a "fake" inline code markup (see my new JwCalendar page for an example :)); real inline code markup might be nice, of course, but I still wouldn't want to give up monospace markup! So, I'd suggest a choosing different set of characters (possibly a combination of two different characters, we're fast running out of candidates!). --JavaWoman
My, uh, comment on monospace was a "poking fun" "tongue in cheek" kind of comment (meant in the kindest possible ways) that programmers use monospace a lot (which is probably why it's there), whereas non-computer sorts don't.....my (maniacal?) focus is on the latter groups eh? LOL. I did try to have code in formatters/page/wakka.php to add in ^^ as code for commenting, but I couldn't get it working...which is why I switched to just replacing monospace. Do I need to edit a file other than that one to get it to work?? I couldn't find another relevant file, but I might have missed something. I've played with editing the wikiedit toolbar before (I now have Image Manager in mine to make placing images easier (from the students personal directories)) and will add in code (either for the replaced monospace or some other code (if I can get it working)) for commenting at some point. -- Mike
Heh, poke fun all you like. ;-) I know us coder types can take thinks rather literally sometimes (and some of us make an art of that! "can you pass the salt?" "yes.").
About not getting ^^ working - without looking up the Formatter code, I think you'd need to add both the code to
handle the "tags" and the appropriate regular expressions, I think. Did you do that? Everywhere? If not, does that hint help at all? --JavaWoman
Oh, regex stuff. Ugh. I don't understand those worth a darn. (although some comments here last week helped me understand them a little) Okay, thanks for the hint. I'll have to tackle it a bit later (got marking to do). -- Mike


markup of diff pages

The 'diff' facility is if course nice - and essential to a Wiki. But I note the differences are marked up only with classes which match to coloring in the stylesheet. If we're doing XHTML, we could do that a little better (as well as more accessible!): the
del and ins elements are created to markup deletions and insertions: fully semantic markup!

My proposal:
  • mark up a deletion with the <del>...</del> tag; since we actually know the timestamp of the change, add that in the datetime attribute (properly formatted);
  • mark up an insertion with the <ins>...</ins> tag; same recipe for the timestamp
  • then use the stylesheet to render those two in whatever font/coloring you like (even as done now) - but note that most browsers have a default rendering anyway

See 9.4 Marking document changes: The INS and DEL elements for all the details (HTML 4.01 since that's where all the semantics are).
--JavaWoman (standards junkie)

This is related - I found that the diff engine and page history sometimes forgot to close tags. With a list of lists, the indents would get carried forward. Check out my hack. Not CSS compliant by any means, but then again, your suggestion isn't either (list tags are not closed etc etc). I reckon you would probably have to parse each addition/deletion through the SafeHTML checker. -- Sam

Assuming you mean XHTML compliant (sorry) my suggestion certainly is (believe me, I would
never suggest anything that isn't XHTML compliant) - I just forgot to mention that closing tags properly is a prerequisite... although I did point to the actual standard which indicates how ins and del must maintain proper tag nesting.
You're right though, I did notice that lists don't seem to be closed properly. I think that should be fixed first (it's a bug, not sure it's recorded as such yet) -
then you can do more semantic markup.
-- JavaWoman (standards junkie)

You mean something like that?:

// deletions
else if ($thing == ""¥¥") 
{
$timestamp = $wakka->GetPageTime(); //hopefully this function returns the right format?
return (++$trigger_deleted % 2 ? "<DEL datetime=\"$timestamp\">" : "</DEL>");
}


(naturely the rest has to be changed too)
--NilsLindenberg


Problem: Scrolling in the search - field


Not worth to mention but now I am here I write it. Text in the search field is a little bit scrollable. Again ... ;-)

-- SkyWalk


Problem: Five Line Breaks


Just a small problem i found. If you insert five line breaks at the end of a site, the footer jumps into the box.
After all a nice wikki. Keep on the good work.

-- SkyWalk


DB Export


ExportDB : as i'm discovering Wikki (and WikkaWiki) and playing with it on my main server and on my laptop (which too runs an Apache installation), I
was needing a quickly way of making export of my database. So I wrote a quick (and dirty ...) export page to get all the replace SQL commands to populate an instance.

I too may use this in the future to quickly backup an online Wikki site. See this additionnal page for the code : CodeExportdb

-- SergiO


Code block formatting

I was converting a document to Wikka markup format, and I was trying to display MySQL (Console) Table output using the "Code" formatters %%. Everything that appears in a code block is formatted using a monospace font (as I expect), however, since the Edit page handler converts every instance of 4 spaces to a tab, the spacing is thrown off. Below is an example (Select some of the whitespace with your mouse to see the tabs):
----------------------------------------------------------------
OBJECT_TYPE		  COUNT(*)
------------------ ----------
FUNCTION				   12
INDEX					  55
LOB						 4
PACKAGE					 2
PACKAGE BODY				2
SEQUENCE					9
TABLE					  37
TRIGGER					 6
VIEW						1
9 rows selected
no rows selected
--------------------------------------------------------------------


The edit page handler seems to convert spaces to tabs throughout the entire document, including Code blocks.

From edit.php
11:     // replace 4 consecutive spaces with tab character
12:     $body = str_replace("   ", "\t", $body);

Is there any way to make the edit handler leave the spaces alone inside of code blocks?
Thanks! -RichardTerry

Noted. Try commenting out that line for a temporary workaround. -- JsnX
// $body = str_replace("    ", "\t", $body);



Various suggestions

- See MarkHissinkMuller for things I would like to see in Wakka/Wacko/Wikka. Feel free to add/discuss.


Other method to attach files

- I'd like a way to attach files to a page without having to include the {{files}} action. I like using the action to
link to attachments, but I'd rather click a link at the bottom of each page to reach the attach form or to see which files are attached to the page. (I'm a PHP newbie, so It would probably take me some time to make a handler to do what I want.) Actually, now I'm kind of used to having all of my attached images displaying at the bottom of the screen, so this isn't a big deal. If I really don't want the attachment list (usually a bunch of images) to display I just remove the {{files}} from the page. -RichardTerry


Installation problem - UTF-8?

- Not a suggestion, but problems: with installing 1.1.3 on a Win 32 Apache 2, with Php 4.3.8 and Mysql 4.1.3. Upgrading from wakka 0.1.2 didn't work (ended with: "creating comment table - failed - hmm"). So I thought I'd do a fresh install. Everything went fine, but there seems to be some problem with utf8. Even when I set the charset in header.php to utf-8, the page is all scrambled. However, in phpMyAdmin, the text in the pages table shows up fine. Any clues? (I need utf-8, by the way ...) BirgitKellner.

Sorry if this was the wrong place for posting this, and feel free to move it to a more appropriate one.

wikka don't support utf-8 yet. this issue is discussed here: WikkaInternationalization (and should be moved from there to its own page, 'cause it's not a trivial problem ;) --moved to HandlingUTF8 ). anyway, i'm afraid you won't find comprehensive help in that discussion. it's not enough to change the meta-tag. that only tells the browser to assume a charset, which in fact isn't used.

i haven't spent much time on that issue, although i am (or should be) interested in it. but be assured that it's not a simple config-value to be squeezed to solve the problem. i hope the discussion mentioned above will get more precise in the next days, as i would appreciate any hint how to start to despair of it ;) i think in long terms it's
a must to support different charsets. -- DreckFehler


  • It would be Really Nice to be able to have an Add Page link that allows a user to create a new page without having to edit an existing one. (I don't belive this is currently possible, I'm a newbie however) Perhaps this could be achieved via a simple HTML Form that prompts the user for a Page Name, and Category. It would be even better if the Category was selectable (dropdown list) from existing categories. And to top the whole thing off, it would be perfect if it was possible to define Template files (eg. per Category) where by when a user creates a new page of category ABC, the template file for ABC is used as the default page text. This would aid in keeping some kind of consistancy between pages of the same category. (ie. for one thing the correct category definition could be placed in the appropriate location/style). An Add Page link would posssibly be usefull on the standard Category pages, especially as the Category is already known.
  • It would be nice if ACLs were somehow inheiritable from their creating pages (Created either the current way or via the above described method)
  • Is it possible to define User Groups to simplify editing ACLs also.
  • Finally, (although I think I can possibly do this one myself) , On the Editor Page a link to the standard FormattingRules page would be most useful. Especially if it opened in a different window.

Regards Simon H.
  • I like the Add Page link idea. It would be really simple to implement, too. Perhaps a text form where you'd enter the page name, which would take you to http://some.host.com/wikka.php?wakka=NewPage/edit, where you would actually create the content. I like it! --KickTheDonkey


Disable CamelCase

While I understand the arguments in favor of CamelCase, I prefer not to use it. Given how incredibly simple it is to modify Wikka for non CamelCase use (remove one line in formatters/wakka.php, and replace a regex in wikka.php, wouldn't it be simple just to add an admin option to turn it on and off?


Rename Pages

It would be nice to be able to rename pages and automatically update all backlinks to point to the right page.

Example: I have a HomePage which has a link to MyIdeas on it. Let's say I realized that all these ideas are Wikka related, so I want to rename the page to MyWikkaIdeas. Any link to MyIdeas (such as that on HomePage) should now be changed to point to MyWikkaIdeas.
- JonathanMitchem

Star Rating System

I think that maybe usefull a star rating system for a page or for an image or other .
  • LuxiO, what criteria would you suggest for such a ranking system? --BrianKoontz
    • BrianKoontz, first i think that the rating system should have an extra table in the main database so that every item we want rate should have a unique identification number. Then we manipulate this extra table from an internal action... maybe? --LuxiO
      • That sounds like a suitable approach...but my question is, how would users be expected to "rank" a page? Are we looking for a measure of suitability, quality or aesthetics, or maybe popularity? Is it really possible to assign a relative ranking to pages with dissimilar content? --BrianKoontz
        • It would depend on the use of the wikki... for example, Rant This Space! is purely for entertainment and therefore people would be encouraged to vote based on how entertaining the page was. In a corporate setting it might denote importance, or relevance to the project. Then the home page could display a list of all pages with 5 stars, and new members would know to read them first. Icons other than stars could also be used.

I have found this simple javascript for page rating:
<div class="js-kit-rating" starColor="Golden" path="ABSOLUTE-PAGE-URL"></div><script src="http://js-kit.com/ratings.js"></script>

but i don't know how implement single file rating --LuxiO

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