Revision history for WillyPs


Revision [22702]

Last edited on 2015-05-12 22:49:51 by WillyPs [support question, errors after upgrade]
Additions:
Upgraded http://www.descentiapedia.planetdescent.net to latest version, getting lots of errors on pages:

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/3rdparty/core/safehtml/classes/safehtml.php on line 162

Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/3rdparty/core/safehtml/classes/safehtml.php on line 163

Warning: preg_replace(): Compilation failed: invalid range in character class at offset 16 in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/libs/Wakka.class.php on line 2041

And server error log:

[Tue May 12 14:06:02 2015] [error] [client 73.17.147.205] PHP Warning: preg_replace(): Compilation failed: invalid range in character class at offset 16 in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/libs/Wakka.class.php on line 2041, referer: http://descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/?installAction=writeconfig

[Tue May 12 14:07:28 2015] [error] [client 73.17.147.205] PHP Warning: preg_replace(): Compilation failed: invalid range in character class at offset 16 in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/libs/Wakka.class.php on line 2041, referer: http://descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/DescentiaPedia

[Tue May 12 14:11:10 2015] [error] [client 73.17.147.205] PHP Deprecated: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is deprecated, use preg_replace_callback instead in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/3rdparty/core/safehtml/classes/safehtml.php on line 162, referer: http://descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/RecentChanges

[Tue May 12 15:40:28 2015] [error] [client 68.180.229.55] PHP Warning: preg_replace(): Compilation failed: invalid range in character class at offset 16 in /misc/22/149/079/938/2/user/web/descentiapedia.planetdescent.net/libs/Wakka.class.php on line 2041
Deletions:
Currently DescentiaPedia is offline, will post a link when it's back.


Revision [22701]

Edited on 2015-05-12 20:24:14 by WillyPs [monor typo]
Additions:
Currently DescentiaPedia is offline, will post a link when it's back.
Deletions:
Currently Descentiapedia is offline, will post a link when it's back.


Revision [22700]

Edited on 2015-05-12 20:23:55 by WillyPs [updated info]
Additions:
Currently Descentiapedia is offline, will post a link when it's back.
Deletions:
[[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] The wiki section of [[www.prepare4descent.net Prepare For Descent!]] (Descent is a PC game.)
++[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc... //--> 1.2//++ Switched to a NucleusCMS
++[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum. //--> 1.2//++ //removed to re-build my wife's website//

//Successfully upgraded two sites to 1.2p1. Working on css for rant.//


Revision [21035]

Edited on 2010-02-19 13:44:08 by WillyPs [updated info]
Additions:
++[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc... //--> 1.2//++ Switched to a NucleusCMS
Deletions:
[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc... //--> 1.2//


Revision [20955]

Edited on 2009-11-28 13:26:06 by WillyPs [updated]
Additions:
++[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum. //--> 1.2//++ //removed to re-build my wife's website//
Deletions:
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum. //--> 1.2//


Revision [20873]

Edited on 2009-09-26 20:30:20 by WillyPs [I upgraded two sites to 1.2.]
Additions:
[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc... //--> 1.2//
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum. //--> 1.2//

//Successfully upgraded two sites to 1.2p1. Working on css for rant.//
Deletions:
[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc...
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum.


Revision [20361]

Edited on 2008-12-06 19:38:26 by WillyPs [added some links to pages]
Additions:
>>StylingWikka
ExtendedFooter
ActionsInFooter>>


Revision [20357]

Edited on 2008-12-06 18:14:59 by WillyPs [cleaning up a bit more... ;)]
Additions:
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka WikkaStyle]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about StylingWikka, instead of lorem ipsum.
Deletions:
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka Wikka Styling]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about Wikka styling, instead of lorem ipsum.


Revision [20356]

Edited on 2008-12-06 18:08:01 by WillyPs [cleaning up a bit... ;)]
Additions:
[[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] The wiki section of [[www.prepare4descent.net Prepare For Descent!]] (Descent is a PC game.)
[[www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] Random bits of wisdom and humor, a bit about me, etc...
[[www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka Wikka Styling]] I originally installed this as a test site but decided to write some thoughts about Wikka styling, instead of lorem ipsum.
Deletions:

====[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/DescentiaPedia DescentiaPedia]]====
My first Wikka install, [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/DescentiaPedia DescentiaPedia]] has recently been re-styled, I've made some major changes to the layout including a right column navigation box, and an expanded footer showing recent changes, recent comments, and more. Comments appreciated!

====[[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space]]====
Oh, I had such great ideas when I started this one... but I haven't done much with it lately. Other than delete comment spam. Captchas are vastly annoying, but I can see why people use them.

====[[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/ WikkaStyle]]====
I originally installed this to try out 1.1.6.4RC1, then 1.1.6.4 when it was released. So I figured since I had installed it anyway, I would use it to write about styling Wikka.

====How is this possible?====
Today I had a spam comment in a page that I had deleted some time ago... When I clicked the link to the page on the recently commented page, it asked me if I wanted to create it. So I did, and there is already a spam comment! What's up with that? How can they leave a comment on a page that does not exist? Page writes are restricted to a select few users. Read and comment are *.
~& Comment ACL of * allows for posting of comments regardless of page write perms. When you delete a page, comments are deleted. Have you compared timestamps of the comment and page creation record? --BrianKoontz
~~&No, the page had been deleted some time (weeks) ago, the comment showed up recently. There was no page history, because there was no page. How can a comment be made on a page that does not exist?
~~~&It's not //supposed to be possible//, as comments are deleted from the DB prior to a page being deleted. Can you reproduce the issue? --BrianKoontz
~~~~&They are. The bug/feature is different: if you have the right to comment, you can comment. If you can comment by default, you can comment on non-existent pages, too. --Nils (Ticket: 747)
~~~~~&Can someone provide proof/reproducibility of this "bug"? I see one anecdotal example, but if it's not reproducible, there's not much can be done about it. --BrianKoontz
~~~~~~& I just reproduced the issue here: http://demo.wikkawiki.org/RecentlyCommented - I posted the comment content via HTTP through a PHP script to a non existing page (""SandBox2""/addcomment) whose comments ACLs were previously set to * -DarTar
~~~~~~~&So the spammer must have marked a link to the comment section before I deleted the page. Perhaps some 'if page exists' code could be added to the comments code. //Ok, I see exactly that in ticket 747.// Or better yet, is there a way to prevent scripts from posting? --WillyPs
~&There is already a process in place to prevent scripts from posting (unique form IDs). But this is really intended to thwart automated scripts. Anyone is free to take a generated page and modify the POST parameters (as can be done here). --BrianKoontz
====How can I reset to use default, config set ACL's?====
When I first started having spam problems, I set a number of page's write acl's to myself of selected individuals... when it got worse, I found out how to do this through the config file. But any page that I set the acl's manually, remained set. And now, I am getting spam comments, so I set the config file to allow only registered users to comment. Then I noticed that any page that had write acl's set as non-default also would not accept the comment acl change made in the config file. Do I need to edit the DB to remove non-default acl settings from every page?

[[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]]
[[www.prepare4descent.net Prepare For Descent!]]
[[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]]


Revision [19958]

Edited on 2008-05-18 22:35:45 by WillyPs [How can I reset to use default, config set ACL's?]
Additions:
====How can I reset to use default, config set ACL's?====
When I first started having spam problems, I set a number of page's write acl's to myself of selected individuals... when it got worse, I found out how to do this through the config file. But any page that I set the acl's manually, remained set. And now, I am getting spam comments, so I set the config file to allow only registered users to comment. Then I noticed that any page that had write acl's set as non-default also would not accept the comment acl change made in the config file. Do I need to edit the DB to remove non-default acl settings from every page?


Revision [19905]

Edited on 2008-05-10 14:23:29 by WillyPs [double quoted "SandBox2" to remove it from pages wanted]
Additions:
~~~~~~& I just reproduced the issue here: http://demo.wikkawiki.org/RecentlyCommented - I posted the comment content via HTTP through a PHP script to a non existing page (""SandBox2""/addcomment) whose comments ACLs were previously set to * -DarTar
Deletions:
~~~~~~& I just reproduced the issue here: http://demo.wikkawiki.org/RecentlyCommented - I posted the comment content via HTTP through a PHP script to a non existing page (SandBox2/addcomment) whose comments ACLs were previously set to * -DarTar


Revision [19901]

Edited on 2008-05-06 21:06:23 by WillyPs [fixed some errors in previous edit: wrote blurbs about my three wikis]
Additions:
=====""WillyPs""=====
====[[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/ WikkaStyle]]====
I originally installed this to try out 1.1.6.4RC1, then 1.1.6.4 when it was released. So I figured since I had installed it anyway, I would use it to write about styling Wikka.
Deletions:
=====WillyPs=====
====[[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/ WikkaStyle====
I originally installed this to try out 1.1.6.4RC1, then 1.1.6.4 when it was released. So I figured since I had installed it anyway, I would use it to write a tut on styling Wikka.


Revision [19900]

Edited on 2008-05-06 21:01:26 by WillyPs [wrote blurbs about my three wikis]
Additions:
====[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/DescentiaPedia DescentiaPedia]]====
My first Wikka install, [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/DescentiaPedia DescentiaPedia]] has recently been re-styled, I've made some major changes to the layout including a right column navigation box, and an expanded footer showing recent changes, recent comments, and more. Comments appreciated!
====[[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space]]====
Oh, I had such great ideas when I started this one... but I haven't done much with it lately. Other than delete comment spam. Captchas are vastly annoying, but I can see why people use them.
====[[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/ WikkaStyle====
I originally installed this to try out 1.1.6.4RC1, then 1.1.6.4 when it was released. So I figured since I had installed it anyway, I would use it to write a tut on styling Wikka.
Deletions:
I have an installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of WikkaWiki, then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Now that 1.1.6.4 is released I'll upgrade soon. EasyPhP does not operate exactly like a lamp stack server would, but it's pretty close. The main difference I've noticed is that 'rewrite mode' is off. I have been unsuccessful at turning it on.
I upgraded [[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] to 1.1.6.4, the installer failed to write the config file, in fact erased all of it but the version number. It did this twice. The first time, I restored the database and folders from my backups. My second attempt, I decided to try copying the config file from my EasyPhP install and make changes to it as necessary. This worked. I had installed WikiFile, now I am going to move all those files to another folder and manually link them. I noticed there are odd pages (like ""UserSettings"") that had files uploaded from, so I am thinking spam-members may have uploaded files through the WikiFile mod. For that reason and for the fact that every file has to have a page (which makes for a lot of pages with no content) I am not going to attempt to reinstall WikiFile.
http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/736


Revision [19886]

Edited on 2008-04-26 11:41:55 by BrianKoontz [response]
Additions:
~&There is already a process in place to prevent scripts from posting (unique form IDs). But this is really intended to thwart automated scripts. Anyone is free to take a generated page and modify the POST parameters (as can be done here). --BrianKoontz


Revision [19885]

Edited on 2008-04-25 20:18:24 by WillyPs [So the spammer...]
Additions:
http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/736
~~~~~~~&So the spammer must have marked a link to the comment section before I deleted the page. Perhaps some 'if page exists' code could be added to the comments code. //Ok, I see exactly that in ticket 747.// Or better yet, is there a way to prevent scripts from posting? --WillyPs
Deletions:
http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/736#preview


Revision [19884]

Edited on 2008-04-25 17:21:38 by DarTar [here's the proof]
Additions:
~~~~~~& I just reproduced the issue here: http://demo.wikkawiki.org/RecentlyCommented - I posted the comment content via HTTP through a PHP script to a non existing page (SandBox2/addcomment) whose comments ACLs were previously set to * -DarTar


Revision [19883]

Edited on 2008-04-25 15:27:12 by BrianKoontz [request for working example]
Additions:
~& Comment ACL of * allows for posting of comments regardless of page write perms. When you delete a page, comments are deleted. Have you compared timestamps of the comment and page creation record? --BrianKoontz
~~~&It's not //supposed to be possible//, as comments are deleted from the DB prior to a page being deleted. Can you reproduce the issue? --BrianKoontz
~~~~~&Can someone provide proof/reproducibility of this "bug"? I see one anecdotal example, but if it's not reproducible, there's not much can be done about it. --BrianKoontz
Deletions:
~& Comment ACL of * allows for posting of comments regardless of page write perms. When you delete a page, comments are deleted. Have you compared timestamps of the comment and page creation record?
~~~&It's not //supposed to be possible//, as comments are deleted from the DB prior to a page being deleted. Can you reproduce the issue?
~~~~~&Can someone provide proof/reproducibility of this "bug"? I see one anecdotal example, but if it's not reproducible, there's not much can be done about it.


Revision [19882]

Edited on 2008-04-25 15:26:05 by BrianKoontz [request for working example]
Additions:
~~~~&They are. The bug/feature is different: if you have the right to comment, you can comment. If you can comment by default, you can comment on non-existent pages, too. --Nils (Ticket: 747)
~~~~~&Can someone provide proof/reproducibility of this "bug"? I see one anecdotal example, but if it's not reproducible, there's not much can be done about it.
Deletions:
~~~~&They are. The bug/feature is different: if you have the right to comment, you can comment. If you can comment by default, you can comment on non-existent pages, too. --Nils
Ticket:747


Revision [19881]

Edited on 2008-04-25 12:21:59 by NilsLindenberg [ticket opened]
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Ticket:747


Revision [19880]

Edited on 2008-04-25 11:52:32 by NilsLindenberg [reply]
Additions:
~~~~&They are. The bug/feature is different: if you have the right to comment, you can comment. If you can comment by default, you can comment on non-existent pages, too. --Nils


Revision [19879]

Edited on 2008-04-25 07:32:43 by BrianKoontz [reply]
Additions:
~~~&It's not //supposed to be possible//, as comments are deleted from the DB prior to a page being deleted. Can you reproduce the issue?


Revision [19878]

Edited on 2008-04-24 21:59:06 by WillyPs [re:re:How is this possible?]
Additions:
~~&No, the page had been deleted some time (weeks) ago, the comment showed up recently. There was no page history, because there was no page. How can a comment be made on a page that does not exist?


Revision [19875]

Edited on 2008-04-22 17:49:36 by BrianKoontz [how is this possible? (reply)]
Additions:
~& Comment ACL of * allows for posting of comments regardless of page write perms. When you delete a page, comments are deleted. Have you compared timestamps of the comment and page creation record?


Revision [19874]

Edited on 2008-04-22 17:16:43 by WillyPs [How is this possible?]
Additions:
====How is this possible?====
Today I had a spam comment in a page that I had deleted some time ago... When I clicked the link to the page on the recently commented page, it asked me if I wanted to create it. So I did, and there is already a spam comment! What's up with that? How can they leave a comment on a page that does not exist? Page writes are restricted to a select few users. Read and comment are *.


Revision [19785]

Edited on 2008-04-15 20:45:07 by WillyPs [added comments about wikifile]
Additions:
I upgraded [[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] to 1.1.6.4, the installer failed to write the config file, in fact erased all of it but the version number. It did this twice. The first time, I restored the database and folders from my backups. My second attempt, I decided to try copying the config file from my EasyPhP install and make changes to it as necessary. This worked. I had installed WikiFile, now I am going to move all those files to another folder and manually link them. I noticed there are odd pages (like ""UserSettings"") that had files uploaded from, so I am thinking spam-members may have uploaded files through the WikiFile mod. For that reason and for the fact that every file has to have a page (which makes for a lot of pages with no content) I am not going to attempt to reinstall WikiFile.
Deletions:
I upgraded [[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] to 1.1.6.4, the installer failed to write the config file, in fact erased all of it but the version number. It did this twice. The first time, I restored the database and folders from my backups. My second attempt, I decided to try copying the config file from my EasyPhP install and make changes to it as necessary. This worked. I had installed WikkaFile, now I am going to move all those files to another folder and manually link them. I noticed there are odd pages (like ""UserSettings"" that had files uploaded from, so I am thinking spam-members may have uploaded files through the WikkaFile mod.


Revision [19784]

Edited on 2008-04-15 20:37:22 by WillyPs [upgrade fail]
Additions:
I upgraded [[www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]] to 1.1.6.4, the installer failed to write the config file, in fact erased all of it but the version number. It did this twice. The first time, I restored the database and folders from my backups. My second attempt, I decided to try copying the config file from my EasyPhP install and make changes to it as necessary. This worked. I had installed WikkaFile, now I am going to move all those files to another folder and manually link them. I noticed there are odd pages (like ""UserSettings"" that had files uploaded from, so I am thinking spam-members may have uploaded files through the WikkaFile mod.
http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/736#preview
Deletions:
Installed 1.1.6.4, [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/HomePage check it out.]] I'll use this site as a test site, and documentation of my efforts at customizing.


Revision [19716]

Edited on 2008-03-22 19:28:35 by WillyPs [installed 1.1.6.4]
Additions:
I have an installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of WikkaWiki, then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Now that 1.1.6.4 is released I'll upgrade soon. EasyPhP does not operate exactly like a lamp stack server would, but it's pretty close. The main difference I've noticed is that 'rewrite mode' is off. I have been unsuccessful at turning it on.
Installed 1.1.6.4, [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/Wikka/HomePage check it out.]] I'll use this site as a test site, and documentation of my efforts at customizing.
Deletions:
I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Today installed rc1 on a public server, if anyone wants to, they may [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/testrc1/HomePage check it out.]] I've checked them with FireFox, IE7, Safari, Mozilla ""SeaMonkey"" and Opera. Safari renders the fonts a little different but otherwise looks good.
~&http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/570


Revision [19605]

Edited on 2008-02-26 13:51:10 by WillyPs [rc1 feedback]
Additions:
I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Today installed rc1 on a public server, if anyone wants to, they may [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/testrc1/HomePage check it out.]] I've checked them with FireFox, IE7, Safari, Mozilla ""SeaMonkey"" and Opera. Safari renders the fonts a little different but otherwise looks good.
Deletions:
From WikkaFolksonomy:
~&The more I think about it, the clearer it is to me that Blogs and Wikis are really instances of the same meta-level idea. They should be unified into a single system. Blogs organize information temporally along a single thread. Wikis organize information spatially around a set of nodes representing ideas. Blogs have no concept of space. Wikis have no concept of time. What we really need is a single framework that enables information to be organized freely in space and time. You can create Nodes that represent ideas and link them to one another just like you do in a Wiki. You can post articles to any Node (or set of Nodes), just like you do in a Blog and they appear sequentially by time. When writing any article you can enter Wiki commands to quickly link to, or create new, Nodes. This is the best of both worlds. You can then filter it by Node name, Time, or both. ([[http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_spivacks_weblog/2003/08/integrating_blo.html From: Integrating Blogs and Wikis -- A Higher Unifying Framework]])
~~&Actually, Wiki does have a concept of time... if you look at RecentChanges or RecentlyCommented, you will see examples of time based organization.

@@:: :: ::@@
Neither the Wiki nor the blog are very conducive to two way conversation. In the wiki anyone can present ideas, and anyone can respond, but the conversation is broken by the lack of a time construct. That is, conversation can be presented on the page in any time order. There is, of course, a comments section for each page which counters this somewhat. The blog, on the other hand is a single sided discussion by nature. Again, comments are added. In both cases, the comments are generally presented as more of an afterthought, it is clear the user is commenting, rather than participating.
Another popular collaborative software is, of course, the forum. The forum is all about conversation. It does however, lose to the wiki in the presentation of information materials. This is because the multiple contributions often get lost in the many pages of responses to the original poster, if the original poster does not alter the original post to reflect the knowledge gained during the discussion. How often do we visit a forum with a question, find the perfect topic title, only to find 25 pages of semi-off topic chatter, with the answer in a few posts buried in the middle somewhere? This, and the fact that the topic may have receded a few pages, leads to the same questions being answered over and over, the few who know the answer becoming weary of answering the same questions. But, without encouraging discussion and soliciting feedback from a variety of users, we might never have found an answer. So, the forum is necessary, but not well suited for the purpose of, say, [[http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php documenting a software product for the purpose of user support]], or building a [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/guidesforum/index.php comprehensive guide to a game]].
A blog is very time oriented, it almost //forces// a user to view the most recent post first. The forum is also time focused, but allows the viewer to choose category and topic. A wiki focuses on the viewer's freedom to choose the category and loses the time-linearity ability. What would a combination do? A mash-up of wiki and blog has been suggested, and might be a good solution for some applications, but personally I don't see it. What, really are we adding to wiki with this? The ability to categorize and filter by time?
I believe a better match would be a wiki and a forum. I envision a forum where a wiki page would head every topic, and could be modified to reflect the final output of the discussion. One or multiple threads could follow, also with the option of additional wiki pages. Each post would have the option of being included in the wiki page. The final wiki pages could then be presented with or without the forum attached, depending on the needs of the user, and of course the degree of wiki page completion.
As an example, suppose someone wanted an answer to: 'How do I install a widget in XYZ software?'. If the developer of the software anticipated the question, and deemed it important, it would not matter much what script powered the website, the answer could be a few clicks away. Unanticipated or less than important questions (in the eyes of the devs) will be harder to find, and the scripting becomes much more critical. In the Open Source community, in particular, questions //with unknown answers// becomes the most challenging to the scripting used, as the devs may need to pull from other user's experiences to answer the question. And since the dev's should not be forced to answer the same questions repeatedly, it's also a critical mission of the script to enable users to find the information they need, without having to ask repetitive questions.
~1)Wiki provides page organization.
~2)Wiki provides page categorizing.
~3)Wiki provides easy page creation.
~4)Wiki provides pages that are easy to edit.
~5)Forum provides topic organization.
~6)Forum provides topic creation.
~7)Forum provides topic organization by time.
~8)Forum provides community involvement.
So, to get the answer to the question, a user might look at wiki pages on various topics, and not find a clear answer. He would the go to the forum, and post a new topic. Momentarily confused by the option to create a wiki page, he would likely ignore it and continue to post his question. A more knowledgeable user would see the post and reply, clicking the box, 'Create wiki page: (wiki page name) from this topic'. When he has added his reply, it is added to a new wiki page, under the content of the original poster's first post. Future poster would have the option, 'Add this reply to wiki page: (wiki page name)?'. When the solution is found, it is an easy task to clean-up, format and organize the final wiki page. Probably change the name of the topic, too, as the original poster likely named it 'total noobz nedz help pleez' or something like that. Ahrrg! But, that's a topic for another rant!
@@:: :: ::@@
I have a website that has a wiki and a forum. I am going to merge them. The wiki had problems with spam, due to the unmoderated registration. As a result, I locked all the pages from editing, to all except the few legitimate contributers. So, the first part of the merger will be to modify the wiki to use the forum's registration. I'll also merge the static portion of the site, restyling all three to a single theme. The forum has user selectable themes, it would be nice to carry this across the integrated site, but that would not be a high priority. The next step would be a further merge of the wiki into the forum and the forum into the wiki. That is, visitors will be able to find pages using the wiki category navigation system, and the option of viewing the forum discussions that are involved in the page as part of the wiki. Whereas on the other hand, participants of the forum will be able to take part in the editing of the wiki page, which will appear as part of the forum thread.
@@:: :: ::@@
I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Today installed rc1 on a public server, if anyone wants to, they may [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/testrc1/HomePage check it out.]]


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I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too. Today installed rc1 on a public server, if anyone wants to, they may [[http://www.shirlsworld.net/testrc1/HomePage check it out.]]
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I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too.


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Edited on 2008-02-22 18:35:50 by WillyPs [rc1 feedback]
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I've just completed installation of EasyPhP on my machine so I can experiment without having to upload files... and most likely break existing websites! I installed the trunk version of [[http://wikkawiki.org/HomePageWikkaWiki]] then 1.1.6.4rc1 was released, so I installed that, too.


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I have a website that has a wiki and a forum. I am going to merge them. The wiki had problems with spam, due to the unmoderated registration. As a result, I locked all the pages from editing, to all except the few legitimate contributers. So, the first part of the merger will be to modify the wiki to use the forum's registration. I'll also merge the static portion of the site, restyling all three to a single theme. The forum has user selectable themes, it would be nice to carry this across the integrated site, but that would not be a high priority. The next step would be a further merge of the wiki into the forum and the forum into the wiki. That is, visitors will be able to find pages using the wiki category navigation system, and the option of viewing the forum discussions that are involved in the page as part of the wiki. Whereas on the other hand, participants of the forum will be able to take part in the editing of the wiki page, which will appear as part of the forum thread.
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Edited on 2008-02-09 19:46:23 by WillyPs [some thought on wiki integration]
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[[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]]
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I've been working on a new site: [[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] (10/15/07)


Revision [19551]

Edited on 2008-02-09 19:45:23 by WillyPs [some thought on wiki integration]
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So, to get the answer to the question, a user might look at wiki pages on various topics, and not find a clear answer. He would the go to the forum, and post a new topic. Momentarily confused by the option to create a wiki page, he would likely ignore it and continue to post his question. A more knowledgeable user would see the post and reply, clicking the box, 'Create wiki page: (wiki page name) from this topic'. When he has added his reply, it is added to a new wiki page, under the content of the original poster's first post. Future poster would have the option, 'Add this reply to wiki page: (wiki page name)?'. When the solution is found, it is an easy task to clean-up, format and organize the final wiki page. Probably change the name of the topic, too, as the original poster likely named it 'total noobz nedz help pleez' or something like that. Ahrrg! But, that's a topic for another rant!
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So, to get the answer to the question, a user might look at wiki pages on various topics, and not find a clear answer. He would the go to the forum, and post a new topic. Momentarily confused by the option to create a wiki page, he would likely ignore it and continue to post his question. A more knowledgable user would see the post and reply, clicking the box, 'Create wiki page: (wiki page name) from this topic'. When he has added his reply, it is added to a new wiki page, under the content of the original poster's first post. Future poster would have the option, 'Add this reply to wiki page: (wiki page name)?'. When the solution is found, it is an easy task to clean-up, format and orginize the final wiki page. Probably change the name of the topic, too, as the original poster likely named it 'total noobz nedz help pleez' or something like that. Ahrrg! But, that's a topic for another rant!


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Edited on 2008-02-09 19:41:07 by WillyPs [some thought on wiki integration]
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=====WillyPs=====
From WikkaFolksonomy:
~&The more I think about it, the clearer it is to me that Blogs and Wikis are really instances of the same meta-level idea. They should be unified into a single system. Blogs organize information temporally along a single thread. Wikis organize information spatially around a set of nodes representing ideas. Blogs have no concept of space. Wikis have no concept of time. What we really need is a single framework that enables information to be organized freely in space and time. You can create Nodes that represent ideas and link them to one another just like you do in a Wiki. You can post articles to any Node (or set of Nodes), just like you do in a Blog and they appear sequentially by time. When writing any article you can enter Wiki commands to quickly link to, or create new, Nodes. This is the best of both worlds. You can then filter it by Node name, Time, or both. ([[http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_spivacks_weblog/2003/08/integrating_blo.html From: Integrating Blogs and Wikis -- A Higher Unifying Framework]])
~~&Actually, Wiki does have a concept of time... if you look at RecentChanges or RecentlyCommented, you will see examples of time based organization.

Neither the Wiki nor the blog are very conducive to two way conversation. In the wiki anyone can present ideas, and anyone can respond, but the conversation is broken by the lack of a time construct. That is, conversation can be presented on the page in any time order. There is, of course, a comments section for each page which counters this somewhat. The blog, on the other hand is a single sided discussion by nature. Again, comments are added. In both cases, the comments are generally presented as more of an afterthought, it is clear the user is commenting, rather than participating.
Another popular collaborative software is, of course, the forum. The forum is all about conversation. It does however, lose to the wiki in the presentation of information materials. This is because the multiple contributions often get lost in the many pages of responses to the original poster, if the original poster does not alter the original post to reflect the knowledge gained during the discussion. How often do we visit a forum with a question, find the perfect topic title, only to find 25 pages of semi-off topic chatter, with the answer in a few posts buried in the middle somewhere? This, and the fact that the topic may have receded a few pages, leads to the same questions being answered over and over, the few who know the answer becoming weary of answering the same questions. But, without encouraging discussion and soliciting feedback from a variety of users, we might never have found an answer. So, the forum is necessary, but not well suited for the purpose of, say, [[http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php documenting a software product for the purpose of user support]], or building a [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/guidesforum/index.php comprehensive guide to a game]].
A blog is very time oriented, it almost //forces// a user to view the most recent post first. The forum is also time focused, but allows the viewer to choose category and topic. A wiki focuses on the viewer's freedom to choose the category and loses the time-linearity ability. What would a combination do? A mash-up of wiki and blog has been suggested, and might be a good solution for some applications, but personally I don't see it. What, really are we adding to wiki with this? The ability to categorize and filter by time?
I believe a better match would be a wiki and a forum. I envision a forum where a wiki page would head every topic, and could be modified to reflect the final output of the discussion. One or multiple threads could follow, also with the option of additional wiki pages. Each post would have the option of being included in the wiki page. The final wiki pages could then be presented with or without the forum attached, depending on the needs of the user, and of course the degree of wiki page completion.
As an example, suppose someone wanted an answer to: 'How do I install a widget in XYZ software?'. If the developer of the software anticipated the question, and deemed it important, it would not matter much what script powered the website, the answer could be a few clicks away. Unanticipated or less than important questions (in the eyes of the devs) will be harder to find, and the scripting becomes much more critical. In the Open Source community, in particular, questions //with unknown answers// becomes the most challenging to the scripting used, as the devs may need to pull from other user's experiences to answer the question. And since the dev's should not be forced to answer the same questions repeatedly, it's also a critical mission of the script to enable users to find the information they need, without having to ask repetitive questions.
~1)Wiki provides page organization.
~2)Wiki provides page categorizing.
~3)Wiki provides easy page creation.
~4)Wiki provides pages that are easy to edit.
~5)Forum provides topic organization.
~6)Forum provides topic creation.
~7)Forum provides topic organization by time.
~8)Forum provides community involvement.
So, to get the answer to the question, a user might look at wiki pages on various topics, and not find a clear answer. He would the go to the forum, and post a new topic. Momentarily confused by the option to create a wiki page, he would likely ignore it and continue to post his question. A more knowledgable user would see the post and reply, clicking the box, 'Create wiki page: (wiki page name) from this topic'. When he has added his reply, it is added to a new wiki page, under the content of the original poster's first post. Future poster would have the option, 'Add this reply to wiki page: (wiki page name)?'. When the solution is found, it is an easy task to clean-up, format and orginize the final wiki page. Probably change the name of the topic, too, as the original poster likely named it 'total noobz nedz help pleez' or something like that. Ahrrg! But, that's a topic for another rant!
~&http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/570
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=====Howdy!=====
>>[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/WillyPs WillyPs:]]
a 46 year old
cabinet maker
and custom woodworker
father of two boys age 7 & 9
living in Pembroke, NH, USA.>>
Now (21-7-07) there are 37 members registered on [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/ DescentiaPedia]], but only 4 have posted real content. A few members names I recognized from community forums, but then there are usersnames that appear to be random number/letter combinations. When they first showed up I was concerned they might be spammers but nothing was posted. Some time later a few of them started posting spam. Now it's a few pages every few days. I am looking at some of the ideas here to control that, but many of the pages are confusing, and don't seem to have been updated in a while.
~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on [[http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/UserSettings the OpenNIC wiki]]).
Thanks for the quick answer... the spam is not a big problem, yet, so I will likely wait until 1.1.7 is released. ( I am currently using 1.1.6.2)
~&Guess I should have knocked on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws off the 'recent changes' list.
~~&Shortly after I wrote that, I noticed they spammed the same few pages so I set the ACL to me or the page owner. I have not had a single spam since! (This time I will knock on wood ;) )
~~~&Now the spam has gotten very annoying... my site should be just a quiet little wiki with an occasional post or two, but instead there are over 400 spam users, and less than a half dozen legitimate users. I am also using a Simple Machines Forum, which has excellent user administration features so I am going to try integrating the two: WikkaWithSMF (wish me luck!)
Another issue I've noticed here, when I edit this page and go to save I occasionally get the 'someone else is editing' notice... If someone else is editing when I start editing shouldn't I get that message immediately? Or, if they start editing while I am editing, shouldn't they get that message?
~&The error message is displayed only after the page is submitted for saving. Locking the page when editing might be an interesting feature...you should submit this as a feature request in the issues tracker! --BrianKoontz
~~&http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/570


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Edited on 2008-01-06 15:22:28 by WillyPs [I am going to attempt an SMF integration.]
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~~~&Now the spam has gotten very annoying... my site should be just a quiet little wiki with an occasional post or two, but instead there are over 400 spam users, and less than a half dozen legitimate users. I am also using a Simple Machines Forum, which has excellent user administration features so I am going to try integrating the two: WikkaWithSMF (wish me luck!)


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Edited on 2007-12-19 19:16:16 by WillyPs [I am going to attempt an SMF integration.]
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Another issue I've noticed here, when I edit this page and go to save I occasionally get the 'someone else is editing' notice... If someone else is editing when I start editing shouldn't I get that message immediately? Or, if they start editing while I am editing, shouldn't they get that message?
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Another issue I've noticed here, when I edit this page and go to save I occasionaly get the 'someone else is editing' notice... If someone else is editing when I start editing shouldn't I get that message imediatly? Or, if they start editing while I am editing, shouldn't they get that message?


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Edited on 2007-12-19 19:15:13 by WillyPs [I am going to attempt an SMF integration.]
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~&Guess I should have knocked on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws off the 'recent changes' list.
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~&Guess I should have knocked on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws of the 'recent changes' list.


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Edited on 2007-12-19 19:13:20 by WillyPs [I am going to attempt an SMF integration.]
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Now (21-7-07) there are 37 members registered on [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/ DescentiaPedia]], but only 4 have posted real content. A few members names I recognized from community forums, but then there are usersnames that appear to be random number/letter combinations. When they first showed up I was concerned they might be spammers but nothing was posted. Some time later a few of them started posting spam. Now it's a few pages every few days. I am looking at some of the ideas here to control that, but many of the pages are confusing, and don't seem to have been updated in a while.
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Now (21-7-07) there are 37 members registered on DescentiaPedia, but only 4 have posted real content. A few members names I recognized from community forums, but then there are usersnames that appear to be random number/letter combinations. When they first showed up I was concerned they might be spammers but nothing was posted. Some time later a few of them started posting spam. Now it's a few pages every few days. I am looking at some of the ideas here to control that, but many of the pages are confusing, and don't seem to have been updated in a while.


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Edited on 2007-10-16 17:08:35 by WillyPs [I am going to attempt an SMF integration.]
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~~&http://wush.net/trac/wikka/ticket/570


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Edited on 2007-10-15 18:15:09 by BrianKoontz [Added comment]
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~&The error message is displayed only after the page is submitted for saving. Locking the page when editing might be an interesting feature...you should submit this as a feature request in the issues tracker! --BrianKoontz


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Edited on 2007-10-15 00:30:31 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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>>[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/WillyPs WillyPs:]]
I've been working on a new site: [[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]] (10/15/07)
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>>[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/WillyPs Me:]]
I just installed WikkaWiki on my website. It was very easy, no problems.
Thanks everyone for all the hard work you've put into this.
Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done.// Well, that was easy enough... although I may play with the color of the content area background a bit. I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow, substituting my own graphics... Thanks, Shane!
Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done.// Ok! I've installed and tested this mod.
Well, yesterday I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to delete a page I misspelled... Today I found the info here on the WikkaDocumentation page... I guess I just did not scroll down far enough.
While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdminAction. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running. //Done.//
Woohoo! Two people joined my site... one posted an excellent page on the [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/CliftonJ History of Descent.]]
Last weekend on a whim, I completely reskinned [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]], I think it came out pretty well. You can see a little of the body background above the header and below the footer, not so bad except on smaller pages where the switches go to the bottom of the browser window. I learned a lot about CSS doing this, but I think it's like the slogan for the game 'Othello'... "A few minutes to learn, a lifetime to master". ;) There are a few other bugs in the skin, but I will work them out. (or not... I'm not a perfectionist! ;) )
I've been working on a new site: [[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]]


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Edited on 2007-10-15 00:25:54 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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I've been working on a new site: [[http://www.rantthisspace.com/RantHome Rant This Space!]]


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Edited on 2007-07-28 08:15:14 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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~~&Shortly after I wrote that, I noticed they spammed the same few pages so I set the ACL to me or the page owner. I have not had a single spam since! (This time I will knock on wood ;) )


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Edited on 2007-07-22 11:07:41 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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=====Howdy!=====
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=====Howdy=====


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Edited on 2007-07-22 10:03:05 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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>>[[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/WillyPs Me:]]
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Edited on 2007-07-22 09:48:41 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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Another issue I've noticed here, when I edit this page and go to save I occasionaly get the 'someone else is editing' notice... If someone else is editing when I start editing shouldn't I get that message imediatly? Or, if they start editing while I am editing, shouldn't they get that message?


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Edited on 2007-07-22 09:39:55 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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~&Guess I should have knocked on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws of the 'recent changes' list.
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~&guess I should'ave knock on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws of the 'recent changes' list.


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Edited on 2007-07-22 09:38:52 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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~&guess I should'ave knock on wood as wrote that... later that day I checked and had 4 pages 'spamdalized', this morning 4 more... easy enough to restore, but very anoying and throws of the 'recent changes' list.


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Edited on 2007-07-21 15:42:44 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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Thanks for the quick answer... the spam is not a big problem, yet, so I will likely wait until 1.1.7 is released. ( I am currently using 1.1.6.2)


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Edited on 2007-07-21 15:11:52 by BrianKoontz [Added comment]
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~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on [[http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/UserSettings the OpenNIC wiki]]).
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~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/UserSettings).


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Edited on 2007-07-21 15:11:12 by BrianKoontz [Added comment]
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~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/UserSettings).
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~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au).


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Edited on 2007-07-21 15:10:43 by BrianKoontz [Added comment]
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~&The next Wikka release (1.1.7) will provide the ability to control logins and spam. Some of these features are already available in the [[WikkaSVN trunk]] version. You might also be interested in setting up a [[FreeCap captcha]] login page (you can check one out I set up on http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au).


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Edited on 2007-07-21 15:01:06 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done.// Ok! I've installed and tested this mod.
Well, yesterday I was pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to delete a page I misspelled... Today I found the info here on the WikkaDocumentation page... I guess I just did not scroll down far enough.
Last weekend on a whim, I completely reskinned [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]], I think it came out pretty well. You can see a little of the body background above the header and below the footer, not so bad except on smaller pages where the switches go to the bottom of the browser window. I learned a lot about CSS doing this, but I think it's like the slogan for the game 'Othello'... "A few minutes to learn, a lifetime to master". ;) There are a few other bugs in the skin, but I will work them out. (or not... I'm not a perfectionist! ;) )
Now (21-7-07) there are 37 members registered on DescentiaPedia, but only 4 have posted real content. A few members names I recognized from community forums, but then there are usersnames that appear to be random number/letter combinations. When they first showed up I was concerned they might be spammers but nothing was posted. Some time later a few of them started posting spam. Now it's a few pages every few days. I am looking at some of the ideas here to control that, but many of the pages are confusing, and don't seem to have been updated in a while.
Deletions:
Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done.// Ok! I've installed and breifly tested this mod. I am going to write an instruction page for those who (like me) don't speak wikki... ;)
Well, yesterday I was pullin my hair out trying to figure out how to delete a page I misspelled... Today I found the info here on the WikkaDocumentation page... I guess I just did not scroll down far enough.
Last weekend on a whim, I completely reskinned [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]], I think it came out pretty well. You can see a little of the body background above the header and below the footer, not so bad except on smaller pages where the switches go to the bottom of the browser window. I learned a lot about CSS doing this, but I think it's like the slogan for the game 'Othello'... "A few minutes to learn, a lifetime to master". ;) There are a few other bugs in the skin, but I will work them out.
But, I am wondering if it is possible to get the header and footer to remain at the top and bottom of the browser window, only the content of the page would scroll?


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Edited on 2007-07-21 12:22:18 by WillyPs [Added comment]
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Edited on 2007-03-05 19:18:35 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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Last weekend on a whim, I completely reskinned [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia DescentiaPedia]], I think it came out pretty well. You can see a little of the body background above the header and below the footer, not so bad except on smaller pages where the switches go to the bottom of the browser window. I learned a lot about CSS doing this, but I think it's like the slogan for the game 'Othello'... "A few minutes to learn, a lifetime to master". ;) There are a few other bugs in the skin, but I will work them out.
But, I am wondering if it is possible to get the header and footer to remain at the top and bottom of the browser window, only the content of the page would scroll?


Revision [16088]

Edited on 2007-02-07 20:04:14 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done.// Ok! I've installed and breifly tested this mod. I am going to write an instruction page for those who (like me) don't speak wikki... ;)
While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdminAction. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running. //Done.//
Deletions:
Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done// Ok! I've installed and breifly tested this mod. I am going to write an instruction page for those who (like me) don't speak wikki... ;)
While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdminAction. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running.


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Edited on 2007-02-07 19:01:23 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdminAction. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running.
Woohoo! Two people joined my site... one posted an excellent page on the [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/CliftonJ History of Descent.]]
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While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdmin. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running.
WooHoo! Two people joined my site... one posted an excellent page on the [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/CliftonJ History of Descent.]]


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Edited on 2007-02-07 19:00:15 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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Well, yesterday I was pullin my hair out trying to figure out how to delete a page I misspelled... Today I found the info here on the WikkaDocumentation page... I guess I just did not scroll down far enough.
While trying to delete, I also installed PageAdmin. It did not work so I posted a question, today I have an answer... so I guess my project for tonight will be to get Page Admin up and running.
WooHoo! Two people joined my site... one posted an excellent page on the [[http://www.prepare4descent.net/descentiapedia/CliftonJ History of Descent.]]


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Edited on 2007-02-04 23:17:56 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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I just installed WikkaWiki on my website. It was very easy, no problems.
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I just installed WikkaWikki on my website. It was very easy, no problems.


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Edited on 2007-02-04 23:17:27 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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a 46 year old
Next up... I've got my eye on WikiFile by ChewBakka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here... //Done// Ok! I've installed and breifly tested this mod. I am going to write an instruction page for those who (like me) don't speak wikki... ;)
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a 48 year old
Next up... I've got my eye on WikkiFile by ChewBaka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here...


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Edited on 2007-02-04 01:29:04 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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I just installed WikkaWikki on my website. It was very easy, no problems.
Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done.// Well, that was easy enough... although I may play with the color of the content area background a bit. I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow, substituting my own graphics... Thanks, Shane!
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::c::
I just installed WikkaWikki on my website.
Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done.// Well, that was easy enough... although I may play with the color of the content area background a bit. I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow substituting my own graphics... Thanks, Shane!


Revision [16054]

Edited on 2007-02-04 01:24:57 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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a 48 year old
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a 48 year old


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Edited on 2007-02-04 01:23:40 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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>>Me:
a 48 year old
cabinet maker
and custom woodworker
father of two boys age 7 & 9
living in Pembroke, NH, USA.>>
::c::
Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done.// Well, that was easy enough... although I may play with the color of the content area background a bit. I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow substituting my own graphics... Thanks, Shane!
Next up... I've got my eye on WikkiFile by ChewBaka, I have a few questions about installing this, but it's getting late here...
Deletions:
Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done// Well, that was easy enough... I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow substituting my own graphics...


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Edited on 2007-02-04 00:59:57 by WillyPs [new skin on my site]
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Now I going to try to create a theme. //Done// Well, that was easy enough... I d/l'd Shane's CrystalWow substituting my own graphics...
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Now I going to try to create a theme.


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